Tom,
I just read your info on the Erie Lackawanna 833.
My father JP Seifarth was the last engineer on that Youngstown to Cleveland run.
He passed away in 1993 at 75 years old, 45 years on the railroad, WWII vet, Combat Engineers.
Very proud of my father and mother, who sold War Bonds during the war.
I rode with him several times to Cleveland up in that E8 Diesel.
Thanks you for your site, it put a big smile on my face and a warm feeling in my heart.
John P. Seifarth II
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Everybody loves a happy ending. |
This 47th birthday gift to my brother was a little late. Erie Lackawanna 833, however, was usually on time.We used to watch this gorgeous gray, maroon and yellow bullet pull into downtown Warren, taking businessmen to and from Youngstown and Cleveland.
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Erie Lackawanna 833, March 2011, 3' x 4'
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"6:50 was the stop time in Warren, where the tracks are no longer there," brother Gerry says.
It was my father's ritual, getting little bro and I out of the house after supper -- and giving the parents a break from each other, I think.
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A sexy bullet |
The train station used to be off of Youngstown Road and Pine Avenue. There were two tracks and a parking lot that let you get dangerously close to the trains, which would occasionally sway.
We'd come home from these excursions covered with rust and railroad grease from exploring on the tracks, while we listened for the arriving diesel locomotive's horn off in the distance. Pennies we'd put on the rails would be flattened and we'd fetch them after the passenger train pulled away. Our father would stay in the car, reading the paper -- and then he'd put the paper in the foot wells so that we kids didn't mess up the Ford's carpeting.
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Two views of Erie Lackawanna 833 and the sketch in progress. |
Once or twice we rode this bullet with my dad and grandfather. It was strictly a guy thing. I remember the passenger cars were like a charter bus on the inside, with high-backed seats and little towels on the headrests. It was noisy and bumpy and
epic badass bitchin' cool.
My brother loved this train. He amassed dozens of sound recordings of its passages, and took many photographs. He has HO scale electric trains that he's hand-painted in Erie Lackawanna colors.
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Between Youngstown and Cleveland |
Our mother Linda could not escape the rail fans living in her house. She did a large oil painting that hangs over Gerry's fireplace in Michigan. He was still in high school when she died. It was her special gift to him and is the most beautiful of her several dozen paintings, in my opinion.
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My mother's gorgeous painting. |
The 833 herself was a General Motors Electro-Motive Division E8, built in 1951. After Erie LackofMoney railroad got absorbed into Conrail, her beautiful stripes were painted over with a bland blue and white scheme.
According to American Rails Forums, 833 was the last E8 delivered to Erie and is the last surviving original Erie E8.
Conrail acquired No. 833 in 1976 when it absorbed Erie Lackawanna. It remained in use as a commuter train between Cleveland and Youngstown before that service was discontinued.
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Happy birthday, my mother's other son. |
After the Conrail takeover, there was one more active passenger equipped E-unit, No. 825, and she too would run between Youngstown and Cleveland. When the units were re-numbered it became CR 4014 and, incidentally, pulled the last Cleveland-Youngstown commuter run into Youngstown.
Here's a sad picture of her sister 825 (4014) at the end:
http://www.trainweb.org/randysrr/cr/engines/cr4014_2.html
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End of the line. |
For 825, there was no respect for what had been a showpiece locomotive for so many years.
The 833, meanwhile, moved west for use on Conrail commuter trains between Chicago and Valparaiso, Ind.
After Conrail got out of the passenger business, it scrapped most of its passenger units. The 833 was the only one spared, and became its business unit. The 833 was numbered 4022.
Gerry says: "Interestingly, this engine lived on to be the Conrail inspection train unit 4022, and with Conrail gone, went to Norfolk Southern, were it was sold to a museum and is restored. Of the several E8 units saved from this era, Erie 833 is in the best shape, and operable."
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Our girl today. |
The New York and Greenwood Lake Railway acquired the unit in 2007, christening the refurbished Erie E8A No. 833 from Conrail 4022. The original NYGL became part of Erie Railroad in 1943 while the modern operation can be found on the former Erie Railroad Dundee Spur in Passaic, NJ.
The respect for 833 has come full circle and it feels right.
Here she is at work, still beautiful. The whistle and bell sound just like I remember:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=684_O02iRbY
Also here:
http://www.rail-videos.net/video/view.php?id=7681
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Oh brother! |